warnings poll

[kiki_miserychic]

Perhaps I'm missing something, but why doesn't someone make a poll about the warnings issue and put it in the VVC comm?

Comments

[amnisias.livejournal.com]

I don't have a problem with a poll, I think it's a great idea.
But you are still stuck with the problem that some options are considered as 'unjust' and 'unethical' by some people. And if one of those got a majority this just would re-fuel the debate and disagreements.

Watching from the sidelines it looks like they are working towards a system where the concom provides warnings for those interested individuals.

[kiki-miserychic.livejournal.com]

I think eventually a poll would be the best idea to gauge the commnuity. I'm pretty sure the results can be made unviewable to everyone else. I see polls as a way to gauge a group of people. Nothing is binding and VVC has never claimed to be a democractic entity.

I think there are a lot of people not voicing their ideas and view on the subject. In private I've conversed with a couple people that are brillant and fresh perpectives and thoughts, but won't voice them publicly for varying reasons. I think a poll would give them a much less "confrontational" way to express themselves. (I use confrontational because I can't think of a better way to say it.)

[amnisias.livejournal.com]

Having a poll without making the result openly available is brilliant idea, that didn't even occur to me. That way the concom can see how the land lies before committing themselves to any changes.

I totally agree about people withdrawing from the debate and either having conversations only in private spaces or not voicing their ideas at all. For that reason I am not sure that what currently is being worked on by astolat (and kudos to her for taking that piece of work on) can truly be called a consensus.

[kiki-miserychic.livejournal.com]

I think what astolat is facilitating is the best thing going right now. It's proactive and it's creating something that's working toward a positive goal. It's not really a consensus because there are people that aren't paricipating either because they don't want to, can't, or choose not to. I don't think there's anyway for a true consensus to be reached for everyone because there are always people not voicing their opinions for various reasons. And that is a large factor in the discussion at large, or at least what I'm getting from it. There will always be people with unheard voices and that's an important issue, which is present in even the construction of a consensus.

(I think I'm being clear, but I usually hang back publicly and I'm not elegant with my words.)