Having a poll without making the result openly available is brilliant idea, that didn't even occur to me. That way the concom can see how the land lies before committing themselves to any changes.
I totally agree about people withdrawing from the debate and either having conversations only in private spaces or not voicing their ideas at all. For that reason I am not sure that what currently is being worked on by astolat (and kudos to her for taking that piece of work on) can truly be called a consensus.
I think what astolat is facilitating is the best thing going right now. It's proactive and it's creating something that's working toward a positive goal. It's not really a consensus because there are people that aren't paricipating either because they don't want to, can't, or choose not to. I don't think there's anyway for a true consensus to be reached for everyone because there are always people not voicing their opinions for various reasons. And that is a large factor in the discussion at large, or at least what I'm getting from it. There will always be people with unheard voices and that's an important issue, which is present in even the construction of a consensus.
(I think I'm being clear, but I usually hang back publicly and I'm not elegant with my words.)
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Date: 2010-07-04 06:20 pm (UTC)I totally agree about people withdrawing from the debate and either having conversations only in private spaces or not voicing their ideas at all. For that reason I am not sure that what currently is being worked on by astolat (and kudos to her for taking that piece of work on) can truly be called a consensus.
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Date: 2010-07-04 06:54 pm (UTC)(I think I'm being clear, but I usually hang back publicly and I'm not elegant with my words.)