ext_3753 ([identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] kiki_miserychic 2010-03-19 11:45 pm (UTC)

Re: Okay, finally a real response! p2

There are artists that will go on and on about how there are gatekeepers to the art world that declare things to be important pieces of art and say other artists and artworks as fleeting garbage and not art.

Yes, but nobody invites them to parties. (:

Not everyone is going to think vidding is art and I'm not going to convince them it is. I wanted to put it out there that I think it is.

I think you're a lot more realistic than I am. I'm always about trying to reframe controversial issues to change the way people think, but it's pretty damned hard to do.

I'm glad you've put out your position on it. I think it's really powerful.

I don't understand why people want to limit what a vid is. Who wants to be the one telling someone else what they should and shouldn't see as a vid or as art?

Not me! But I wonder if reframing the fannish perspective on vids (acknowledging that they are art, for example) would help more vidders feel free to do what you suggest: make whatever they want to make, without worrying about what other people think.

I don't see art as being gendered.
It needn't be, but until the revolution comes, it's going to exist in a gendered context.

While a lot of vidders in this vidding community are women, I don't see vidders are only female either.

Of course not; I'm sorry I implied otherwise. The majority in my vidding community are women and I do think that has influenced the way we think about our work -- not biologically, but culturally.

I don't care very much about how other people see it in the end.

That's remarkable. I mean, I think I care less than a lot of fans do about policing boundaries and the like. But I'm still fascinated by how the culture around fannish works is shaped and shapes the works themselves.

Originally, I wrote this to respond to people saying that vidding can't be art beause I wanted to throw my own view of there in opposition. I'd read posts and comments in opposition to vidding as art, but none that supported it.

That's interesting -- I'd love to read those posts. I've not read any, myself; yours is the first "vidding as art" post I've seen.

I don't want to change someone else's mind per se, but to offer my own view for those willing to read it.

I'm so glad you did. I really enjoyed reading it (in case that's not totally obvious!).

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